Coming From The East With The Seal Of God
- Adam Stillman
- Jun 9
- 32 min read
Hello everyone and welcome back to finding the alternative. Today's video is going to be about coming from the East and the seal of God I figure since these two subjects are very closely related it might be better just to kill two birds with one stone and just make one video covering these two topics.
You also might be surprised to learn that the WMSCOG IS NOT THE FIRST CHURCH TO SAY THAT THEY'RE CHRIST CAME FROM THE EAST. Now with that out of the way let's go.
As always we break this down into four parts number one: what is the teaching regarding the seal of God and coming from the East according to the WMSCOG. Number two what is the origins of this coming from the East teaching if any. Number three what the Bible says about this coming from the East teaching. Last but not least number four our conclusion is that the angel from the East is not Ahnsahnghong and the one coming from the east in Isaiah is Cyrus and nothing more.
Okay so what exactly is the teaching in regards to Christ coming from the East his second coming. Well this all stems from Isaiah and Revelation 7. Isaiah 41 and 46 testifies about one who comes from the East who is a conqueror bent on conquest.
Essentially 41 describes a man 46 describes a bird of prey and describes what this man will do when he comes from the east. Revelation chapter 7 tells us of the seal of God being placed on the 144,000 by this angel from the East and essentially what the World Mission Society says is just like King Cyrus freed the Israelites and he is the gentile King from the East so too Ahnsahnghong is our spiritual gentile King freeing us the spiritual Jews from the clutches of Babylon captivity Babylon being the churches that worship on the dreaded Sunday.
Following Revelation 7 the angel from the East prophecy they say Ahnsahnghong is this angel from the East who brings the seal and places it on the 144,000 spiritual Jews and the seal of God is the Passover the protects you from physical disaster and then when physical disaster doesn't work then they say actually it's spiritual disaster the last and greatest disaster which is the Lake of fire the Lake of fire passes over you or something like that essentially this is the watered-down version of the WMSCOG teaching in regards to coming from the east or the Seal of God.
First off this is nothing new. I am going to reference yet again from the Divine Principle written in 1951 by Rev Moon.
Specifically we will be reading chapter 6 entitled the Second Advent section 3 where will Christ come again? part 2 & 3.
2. CHRIST WILL COME AGAIN TO AN EASTERN NATION
As Jesus said in Matthew 21:33 in a parable, the Jewish people, by delivering Jesus to the cross, fell to the position of the tenants who killed the son of the vineyard owner. Which nation, then, shall be the one that will succeed to God's heritage, taken away from the Jewish people, and produce the fruits of it? The Bible teaches us that the nation is in the East.
We read in the Bible (Rev. 5:1) that in the right hand of God there was a scroll, written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals, "...and no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look into it.", and John, seeing it, wept profusely. Then, the Lamb went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him who was seated on the throne (Rev. 5:7) and opened each of the seven seals (Rev. 6:1).
We read the record of the Lamb having opened the sixth seal (Rev. 6:12) and, as an intermediate scene before the opening of the last seal, there is the record in Revelation 7. The Bible goes on to say in Revelation 7:2-4 that another angel ascended from the rising of the sun with the seal of the living God and sealed the chosen servants of God on their foreheads, and the number of those sealed was one hundred and forty-four thousand. It is again written that there stood the Lamb, the Lord, and with him one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been sealed (Rev. 14:1).
From these Biblical verses, we may know that Christ will be born in a country in the East--that is, from the rising of the sun--and place a seal on the foreheads of the hundred and forty-four thousand, the first chosen among the people of the land, with his name and his Father's name (Rev. 14:1). Therefore, we see that the nation which would take over God's heritage and produce the fruits of the Second Advent of the Lord is in the East. Then, which of the many nations of the East will be the very nation?
3. THAT NATION OF THE EAST IS KOREA
Now we know, as previously elucidated, that Christ would not come again among the lineal descendants of Abraham, but to the nation that would take their heritage and produce the fruits of it; that the nation which would produce the fruits should be one of the Eastern nations. From ancient times, by the "Eastern nations", we refer to Korea, Japan, and China. Meanwhile, Japan, among the three, is the nation that has worshipped Amaterasuomikami generation after generation; moreover, she entered the period of the Second Advent as a totalitarian nation, and as will be discussed later, she is the nation which persecuted the Christianity of Korea. China, being a communist nation, is on the Satanic side, together with Japan.
Therefore, the nation of the East where Christ will come again would be none other than Korea. Now, let us prove, from several viewpoints based on the Principle, that Korea should be the nation that can receive the Lord of the Second Advent. The nation where the Messiah will come must meet the following conditions. - END QUOTE
So as always I find it very odd that Reverend Moon who according to the WMSCOG is a false Christ but yet he's able to reveal this amazing core truth of WMSCOG and indeed the core truth of the true Second coming Christ Ahnsahnghong the obvious difference is Reverend Moon revealed these truths three decades before Ahnsahnghong ever did.
How can a false Christ reveal the exact same truth that the true Christ reveals but the false Christ reveals it decades prior? That question I think deserves a very thorough explanation.
Now I've heard someone's rebuttal to this be well so what someone revealed the true prophecies before Ahnsahnghong but they didn't fulfill them so there. But Ahnsahnghong is the only one who can teach or reveal these truths, right? Isn't the whole point of him coming as the root of David to reveal the Lost truth the perfect truth to mankind?
Then if that's the case please explain to me how a false Christ can know the truth and reveal the truth before the true Christ that is the question. I'm not asking who fulfilled what, I'm asking how can a false Christ reveal decades prior what the true Christ can only reveal? Please give me a logical explanation.
Oddly enough even Moon wasn't the first one to think this. A filipino minister Felix Malano thought he was the angel from the East. He formed the Iglesis Ni Cristo or INC.
Let's check out his bio from Wikipedia.
Born in a devout Catholic family, Manalo began questioning Catholic teachings during the Philippine Revolution in the 1890s, ultimately converting first as a Methodist in 1904, then as a Seventh-day Adventist in 1911 before he began preaching what was to become the doctrine of the Iglesia ni Cristo at a neighborhood in Santa Ana, Manila, which he formally registered to the Philippine government on July 27, 1914 as a religious corporation. He was seen as the "angel ascending from the East" as mentioned in Revelation 7:2 by his early followers. During his tenure as Executive Minister, he oversaw the church's early growth and rapid expansion following the Japanese occupation of the country during World War II. By the 1950s, Manalo's health had deteriorated, leaving most of his official church duties to his son Eraño. He died of peptic ulcer disease in 1963. - END QUOTE
So essentially Felix was not happy with the churches around him and thought they were all corrupt. So he decided to start his own church and restore God’s true church in the Phillipines in the early 1900’s. I will post the INC’s website below where they use scriptures just like WMSCOG to prove why Felix is the fulifllment of Isaiah 41, Isaiah 46 and Revelation 7. Yes, the INC uses the exact same verses to prove Felix is the one from the East (Philippines) that WMSCOG uses to prove that Ahnsahnghong is one from the East (Korea). Link will be in the description.
Now you may say well the east clearly indicates Korea. How? How does the east clearly indicate Korea? The bible doesn’t say Korea, the bible also doesn’t say Phillipines. So you guys can duke it out all you want, but the bible doesn’t say either of the locations you are fighting about.
You might say well did Felix restore the Passover? Because that is literally your last resort to every subject brought up ever. But when I say Armstrong restored the Passover for eternal life and forgiveness of sins already before Ahnsahnghong, you tell me well Armstrong doesn’t know the prophecies about Passover or something.
So obviously the act restoring the Passover is not that telling then, because you moved the goal post.
On top of all this you might say, well fine. So what these other churches already taught about coming from the east and the angel from the east and said they were the fulfillment before Ahnsahnghong or WMSCOG. But Ahnsahnghong fulfilled the prophecies of the bible clearly. But that is what we call circular reasoning.
You say “Ahnsahnghong fulfilled the prophecies of the bible” I would say “Ok how do you know?” You would then reply “Because he is the root of David”. “Ok” I say “What does the root of David do?”. You reply again “He reveals the prophecies of the bible”. I would then retort “But don’t all the other people who claim to be the root of David say the same thing?” “ Yes” you say, “but they are false.” I would then add “Couldn’t that be true of Ahnsahnghong?” “No.” You say emphatically. I would then enquire as to why? “Because he fulfilled the prophecies of the bible.” You say with full assurance of faith.
Do you see how we came full circle and nothing was proven? This is how it is with all these groups. Shincheonji, LDS, SDA, JW, Moonies and also the WMSCOG. They all claim to be the truth. So you may think we are a true church right? Well there are plenty of Churches who claim to be the restored true church. Then among all the true churches, you still have the same problem and there is no distinction between you. You all proof text and smash your theology into scripture. The best way to debunk these groups is context and sticking to the scriptures.
Also I don't know what it is about SDA but those that come out of it and start their own churches seem to go crazy.
Anyways that's about all I have as far as the origin of this teaching so that just leaves us diving into it examining what the scriptures actually say and coming up with our own conclusion so I think it's fitting to start with the most famous verse which is Revelation chapter 7.
Revelation chapter 7 verses 1 to 3.
“After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
So here we see John's perspective where he sees the four Angels standing at the four corners of the Earth holding back the four winds right? But then we see an angel coming up from the East having the seal of the living God. Now there are a few things to examine here: number one is East, number two is this Angel and number three is the seal.
Let's start with number one: where is the East according to this scripture? The WMSCOG will eagerly point out “well East from where the prophecy was told (Patmos) is what? Korea”. They will also say that the seal of God as being placed is the Passover and the Passover was starting to be preached in only Korea.
Technically Armstrong restored the Passover for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life in the west but that's another story we already discussed in other videos so we're not going to talk about it here.
So East can be whatever somebody wants to interpret East as I think John wasn't mentioning a specific place I think he was referring to the general direction of where this Angel was coming from he was not referring to a single country or town or even continent for that matter but it simply referring to this angel coming from an Eastward direction.
Now I guess depending on your church you can interpret this verse however you want. It could be China if you want, it could be Japan if you want, it could be Korea if you want depending on what fits your doctrine and who you are trying to force into scripture. But the reality is East is just simply that, East! Without any sort of markings, any sort of distinction. Second is the seal.
Now show me one Bible verse where the seal of God equals the Passover. You might go to John chapter 6 verse 27 and say “See Jesus has the seal of God on him and when you eat Jesus flesh and blood you have him metaphorically inside you and so since he's the seal then you get the seal when you eat him and we only eat him on Passover and finally Passover protects you from physical disasters.”
So it may seem reasonable to come to this conclusion based on what the World Mission Society Church of God says. However, considering the Passover “protection” in Exodus chapter 12 only applies to the firstborn, only the first born were protected from the destroying angel, the promise of protection was not given to all of Israel; again it was only given at that time specifically for the firstborn.
Also most of them died even though they kept the Passover. Not only that but Josiah who is the great reformer of the Old Testament who “restored” the Passover also was killed immediately after keeping the Passover by the king of Egypt.
Jesus himself kept this alleged New Covenant Passover and he was killed immediately after the apostles who also allegedly kept this New Covenant Passover they also were martyred in painful ways also the early church was martyred frequently because of the heavy persecution by the Roman empire but according to WMSCOG they kept the New Covenant Passover.
Literally everyone that has kept the Passover up until this point in time who is not alive currently has died.
Also currently there have been people in the Church of God who kept the Passover faithfully and have died. So unfortunately I don't believe the Seal of God is the Passover because the Passover has not worked thus far not that there's something wrong with the Passover but I think that the church has made Passover into something it was never supposed to be. So then what do I think the seal of God is, well let's read.
2 Cor 1:21-22
“Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.”
So here we just read that God makes us stand firm and we stand firm in Christ God has put the seal on us and put our spirits in our heart as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come. Let's also see.
2 Cor 5:5
“Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.”
Here we also see the same thing God who has made us for this very purpose has given us the spirit as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.
Ephesians 4:30
“And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”
What is the seal? it's the holy spirit that we receive through believing. Let's see one last verse. Now the question remains: according to the sacred text how do we receive this seal?
Ephesians 1:13-14
“And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.”
Here the Bible tells us that when we heard the word of Truth The Gospel having believed we were marked with the seal the promised Holy Spirit so the seal is a deposit and the seal guarantees our inheritance. How do we receive the seal or holy spirit? Paul tells us through believing.
Now you may try to rationalize this to combat your cognitive dissidence through analogies and scripture hoping to get to your precious Passover, that you elevate above all for some reason. You may try to reference verses about “Don’t use your thoughts” or “Even though a way seems right to the eyes but in the end leads to death" or “Well to believe in Jesus is to keep the Passover” or my personal favorite “Don’t add or take away from the words of God”.
Or can just read the scriptures and understand the context. But that is completely up to you.
I'll tell you what, go watch my Passover video and my saved by faith video and then we can talk about Passover and faith if you have any other questions but I already discuss those in great detail in other videos so I'm not going to go into that here otherwise this video would be ridiculously long, as it already is.
Now you may ask “How can the angel have the Holy Spirit or give it?”
Well let’s see.
Acts 8:15-17
“When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.”
Let’s also see.
Acts 19:1-6
“While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?”
They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”
“John’s baptism,” they replied.
Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues[b] and prophesied.”
If the believer can receive the Holy Spirit from the laying on of hands from men. Meaning God allows men who are sinful and tainted to be vessels of the imparting gift of the Holy Spirit. Then it is definitely possible for an angel to do something similar hypothetically.
Anyways back to Revelation chapter 7 verse 1 what is happening well like I said in a bunch of my other videos though 144,000 they are Jews why because the Bible says they're Jews that's why it names 12,000 from 12 tribes because if you keep reading the Bible also describes the great multitude of many Nations languages and tongues. so you can't have one be oh we're spiritual Jews but then in the same passage in the same author and same context say that oh well these multitude Nations languages and tongues are actually spiritual.
So then the 144,000 are either physical Jews thus making the great multitudes nation languages and tongues physical gentiles or the Jews are spiritually speaking and can come from physically all nations and the great multitude is spiritually speaking and coming from all nations as well physically.
But then how would you distinguish between the spiritual great multitude? You couldn't call them spiritual gentiles because according to Revelation this great multitude has washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb. Because as you know the spiritual gentiles don’t keep Passover so how could the bible say the great multitude has washed their robes in the blood of the lamb?
Another problem that the WMSCOG faces is that only 144,000 receive the seal in this case the great multitude are never sealed according to Revelation 7. If this seal is the Passover and Ahnsahnghong is the one who brings this Passover as the angel from the east.
The angel from the east only seals the 144,000 and not the great multitude. In fact this great multitude were those who perished in Revelation 5 during the tribulation. Also, WMSCOG, you have way more than 144,000 people in your church which means the odds of you being one of these 144,000 according to WMSCOG doctrine is 27 to 1 and growing.
Which means according to your doctrine 26 out of 27 people will perish. Also if the seal of God is only given to the 144,000 as scripture suggests then how can you say it's the Passover if the great multitude also has the seal.
Because doesn’t everyone in your church keep the Passover or the seal? The great multitude die even though they have the seal. What is the point of having the seal if you're a great multitude if you're going to die anyway? What is the point of the seal then?
Now you may say there is no difference between Jew or Gentile now. That is true when it comes to who can receive salvation and God’s blessing, yes there is no difference or discrimination to who can receive salvation or God’s grace. But physically yes there is still a distinction. Jew and Gentiles do physically still exist and there is a difference. If you're not sure, go ask a Jew about if there is a difference between Jew and Gentile and let me know what they say.
Anyways what can we gather from Reading Revelation chapter 7 now knowing what we know. Well there's 144,000 Jews and they are sealed with the Holy Spirit. What does this mean? I believe it means that 144,000 Jews were saved by believing in Jesus the gospel and receiving the Holy Spirit and were sealed, that’s simply what I think it means.
For now I take a partial preterist view on this where I believe that the 144,000 were the Jews who listened to Jesus' words “when you see Jersualem being surrounded by armies, get out” and those who listened to Jesus' words in Jerusalem escaped the winds of war. We are going to talk about this a little bit more in the next video so hang tight.
The problem with this view is that you have to acknowledge the book of John being written before the destruction of Jerusalem. There are some scholars that suggest that Revelation was written about 60 AD, but the majority of scholars date it 90-100 AD. Is it possible that this is fulfilled in the future as well? For sure. But evidence to me at this point suggests a preterist view makes the most sense.
Now about the Seal being given for your protection. Let’s see what Ahnsahnghong says.
Ahnsahnghongs book “Problems with New Jerusalem, the Bride and Women’s Veils” chapter 10 “The heaven of Grace which is forever” the last two sentences. Ahn is writing about the New Jerusalem where God dwells.
“People who lived within the Heaven of grace have all died. Can one die in Heaven? As Um Soo In is saying, the Heavenly New Jerusalem has come down to earth now and our Church is Heaven at the present. Nevertheless, there were many people who have died in our church and there will be many people who will die in our church as well. A place where people die is not the everlasting Heaven.”
Now skip down to the last couple sentences.
“This Heaven of grace is a place where all die. The 144,000 saints will die and will be transformed and they must be resurrected in order to enter the Eternal Heaven.”
So even according to the Root of David, the 144,000 will actually come to die. So then where does that leave you? You are just as well off being outside the WMSCOG as being inside since there is no protection for the 144,000 either way according to Ahnsahnghong. Unless of course Ahnsahnghong is wrong. But that definitely can not be the case…. right?
But think about it critically for a second. Passover doesn’t protect you from a cold, stubbing your toe, car accident or even death or accidents in general. No one that has kept the Passover before has lived forever have they?
I mean Jesus was killed the day after Passover, the Apostles were martyred, the early church was martyred, people still die in the WMSCOG and will continue to die in the WMSCOG. What makes you think it is going to protect you from anything?
My point being is that the Passover is not the seal and it will not save you from WWIII, it never could and it never will. So even if the WMSCOG is right and WWIII does happen, let's say, there is no protection.
Josiah who kept the Passover as one who loved God with all his heart, soul, mind and strength was killed immediately after he kept the Passover, I know the WMSCOG touts the 1 Kings chapter 23 about how awesome Josiah is, which is for sure, but they conveniently stop reading at the part where Josiah gets killed by Pharaoh Necho of Egypt after keeping the Passover. So that is not a valid reason for staying.
Also the bible never says that the 144,000 don’t die. You can assume they are but the reality is there is no evidence that the 144,000 don’t die. Yes the bible talks about those who are caught up in the air and those who are changed for sure. But the bible never connects the 144,000 with the ascension or rapture. That is simply a fact.
So what do you think is more important? Keeping some ordinance that appears to be in the bible while following a false God and false church that lies. Or finding and worshipping true almighty God regardless of Sabbath and Passover.
Seriously, a bunch of churches keep Passover with the feet washing and Sabbath, does that mean they are worshipping the true God? But Passover leads you to true God right? But yet you don’t think the other churches that keep Passover follow true God.
But this proves that just because someone can keep Passover or Sabbath they are still not following the true God correctly? How are you any different then?
You are praying to a different name other than Jesus, worshipping a woman that Ahnsahnghong told you not to worship, that it is an unchanging truth, he told you not to believe in such a scandalous teaching which is God the Mother.
You have seen so many contradictions in your life of faith, failed prophecies and spiritual abuse of power, you have been hurt, broken, scared all the time and the list goes on. Why are you holding on to one little thing such as Passover that you have seen is not going to work.
As we have just read, scripture tells us clearly that the seal of God is the Holy Spirit. You receive this seal by believing in Jesus and accepting the gospel. Now you can argue that the gospel is the Passover. That's a whole other deal and I have made 3 videos about that but let's stick to one topic. Now moving on to this angel from the east.
This creates another problem with the World Mission Society Church of God and also creates a problem with Ahnsahnghong books.
First let's turn to revelation.
Rev 22:8-9
“I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”
Here the angel tells John to not worship him and to only worship God right?
Matthew 4: 8-10
“Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”
Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”
Here the devil entices Jesus to worship him and Jesus says to worship God and serve him only right?
Psa 148:2-6
“Praise him, all his angels; praise him, all his heavenly hosts. Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars. Praise him, you highest heavens and you waters above the skies. Let them praise the name of the Lord, for at his command they were created, and he established them for ever and ever— he issued a decree that will never pass away.”
Here we can see that God is the one who created angels, correct?
Colossians 1:15-16
“The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.”
Here the Bible says Jesus created all things in heaven on Earth visible and invisible so this means angels were created beings by God even by New Testament standards.
So does the bible allow us to worship angels? Yes or no? Are angels the creator or creations? They are creations.
Then why do you worship the angel from the east?
See the problem with Revelation chapter 7 and tying the angel from the East to God or Jesus is number one the Bible says we should not worship angels number two angels are created beings by the creator not God himself.
God is never described as an angel; the Creator and creation are not the same. This creates a lot of problems. God Is not an Angel he is the creator by which Angels starry host things in heaven on the earth under the Earth are all created by him for him and through him.
Now of course there is the angel of the Lord that appears in the Old Testament that is a physical manifestation of God on earth which is referred to as theophany. Theophany is a manifestation of God that is able to be detected by human senses.
But the phrase angel of the Lord ceases to be used after the birth of Jesus which means angel of the Lord is never used in the New Testament.
The phrase in the Greek Septuagint is ὁ ἄγγελος Κυρίου which is the equivelant of malak YHWH. But in Revelation 7 it is allon aggelon which translates to another angel. There is no “Theou” which means “of God” or “Kupiou” which means “of the Lord”. So this angel is just a regular angel.
Now you may say God is just a very powerful angel. Again angels are created. That is the point I'm trying to make and the second point is let's see another verse.
Col 2:18-19
“Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.”
Here we see that worship of angels disqualifies you from the prize what is the surprise it's heaven Paul goes on to say such a person goes in a great detail on what he has seen his unspiritual mind Puffs him up with idle notions he's lost connection with the head from whom the whole body is supported and held together.
So worship of angels is forbidden and will cause you to lose your prize, meaning you lose salvation.
Lastly the word used for angels in these verses is aggelos which yes it can mean angels, but it can also mean messenger. So it could mean a spiritual agent for sure, but in some translations it is translated as messenger, it could very well be a human as well.
For instance Matthew 11:10 and Luke 7:24 it refers to John the Baptist and his messengers as aggelos.
But John is a human right? Also Luke 9:52 said Jesus sent aggelos out ahead of them to get things ready for him referring to human messengers. It wouldn’t change the meaning of the text in Revelation unless of course you are trying to shove doctrine into scripture and do not have room for additional facts or real possibilities.
Realistically the 4 angels and the angel from the east could be spiritual beings, or they could be referring to human agents. For the record I do think Revelation is referring to Angels. The important thing is, either way, human or angel you should not worship them.
Also if we are to worship this angel from the East and consider him God that would mean we are able to worship angels, correct? Then why was John stopped from worshiping an angel in Revelation?
Also where does revelation say this Angel from the East is God there is no indication given in Scripture that this angel is God. We're adding to the text and what does the Bible say about adding to the text? We know very well.
And again if we're able to worship angels and God is indeed an angel why did Paul say the worship of angels disqualifies you and he also says do not listen to someone who worships angels. Therefore worshiping this angel from the East is idolatry and it was not meant to be taken that way.
This also becomes problematic because the WMSCOG say Ahnsahnghong is the Holy Spirit who is born in the flesh. But the WMSCOG also teaches that the flesh is a prison for our souls, that the flesh or body itself is evil and sinful.
Then if the Holy Spirit is born it means the Holy Spirit puts on Sinful Flesh (Body). Then why call it the Holy Spirit if it puts on sinful flesh. Wouldn’t the Holy Spirit cease to be Holy and Spirit the moment he puts on flesh? I mean it is in the name Holy Spirit.
Why would the Holy Spirit need a sinful body inherited from the fall? It makes no sense.
You may say well Jesus was born in the flesh so… Right, but the son is supposed to be born in the flesh according to Isaiah. In fact there would be no son if he wasn’t born. That is the whole point of him being the Son of God or the Son of Man, he had to be born in sinful flesh to redeem us from sin and death.
The Holy Spirit has no such role in scripture and there is no indication that the Holy Spirit puts on sinful flesh and it is contrary to the role and purpose of the Holy Spirit. We can talk more about this in detail later, but I thought this was a good point to think about.
Last thing let’s talk about the 4 winds for a minute. The WMSCOG are adamant that the 4 winds being released is WWIII and that once the 4 winds are released it is the end of the world or as GP affectionately dubs it “the last disaster” right?
That is not biblical. I'll show you.
Revelation 9:13-15
“The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind.”
The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind."
Here we see the appearance of the 4 angels again. But where is the wind? They don’t seem to be holding the wind anymore and are actually in a different location. So that is interesting.
When the 4 angels are released, they only kill about ⅓ of mankind. So this does not match what the WMSCOG says the 4 angels do. There is still far more to come than what the 4 angles unleash on the earth, it is just the tip of the iceberg. Does it sound dreadful what the 4 angels are supposed to do? Absolutely, but it is nowhere near what the WMSCOG says they do.
So as you can clearly see now this doctrine of the seal of God and this angel from the East and basically everything else the WMSCOG says about this prophecy doesn't make a whole lot of sense when looking at the fine details and examining scripture. Indeed there are severe holes in this doctrine.
Now let's take a look at Isaiah chapter 41 so Isaiah 41 is referring to God who comes from the East right he's coming from the East and he hands Nations over to him he subdues Kings before him he turns them to dust with his sword to win bone tap with his bow he pursues them and moves on a skate by path his feet have not travel for etc. so essentially this is God coming almost like as a warrior.
Now before you (WMSCOG member) get too excited, literally anybody could say that they fulfilled this right anyone who wants to be a second coming in Christ who comes from a general direction of East can say that they're the fulfillment of this privacy and say that where they came from is the East based off some unit of measurement that they themselves came up with in order to verify their own prophecy that they themselves made.
That's where it gets really hard to debunk these kind of things is because they're never in scripture to begin with you don't see this Korea how do you know that this East is Korea you don't it's simply not in scripture God is coming from the generalized area of the East doesn't give a specific country name doesn't give a specific landmark it just says God is coming from the East.
Now you can say whatever the East is according to what doctrine you are trying to fit in scripture or whatever figure you are trying to write into scripture, but the fact is it doesn’t name a country. Just the direction. Then how do we understand this passage?
The primary purpose of Isaiah 41 is to encourage and reassure God's people (Israel) during the exile in Babylon, emphasizing God's sovereignty and power over their enemies. It assures them of God's help and protection, and it also challenges the idolaters to prove the worthlessness of their gods. Ultimately, the chapter emphasizes God's control over history and His unwavering love and care for His chosen people.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Encouragement and Reassurance:
The chapter opens with a summons to the nations, followed by words of comfort and encouragement to the exiles.
God assures them of His presence and strength, promising to strengthen and uphold them.
He assures them of victory over their enemies.
2. Conviction of Idolaters:
God challenges the idols and their worshipers to prove their power and knowledge [21-24].
This is done by questioning their ability to foretell the future, do good or evil, or even speak [21-24].
3. God's Sovereignty and Power:
The chapter highlights God's ability to control history and raise up instruments for His purposes, as seen in the example of Cyrus.
It emphasizes that God is in control and that His people have a future beyond exile.
4. Message of Hope and Restoration:
The chapter speaks of the return of the exiles to their land and the restoration of their fortunes.
It speaks of a future where they will prosper and see God's hand in their lives [17-20].
In essence, Isaiah 41 is a powerful message of hope and encouragement, emphasizing God's faithfulness, power, and love for His people, even in the midst of hardship.
Also Isaiah 41:25 it reads
Isaiah 41:25 NIV
“I have stirred up one from the north, and he comes— one from the rising sun who calls on my name. He treads on rulers as if they were mortar, as if he were a potter treading the clay."
So here it talks about the one who is stirred up from the north, one from the rising sun east. So are there 2 Christ's coming up from the East then? Are we going to then say that God is referring to Kim jong-un I don't think so or something?
In Isaiah 41, the phrase "comes from the east" refers to the coming of a conqueror or divine messenger, specifically the Persian king Cyrus, who would liberate Israel from Babylonian captivity. The east represents the direction from which this figure will arise and bring a change, often associated with new beginnings and hope.
Elaboration:
Prophecy of Cyrus: Isaiah 41:2 specifically mentions "He stirs up one from the east, whom victory meets at every step". This refers to the Persian king Cyrus, who would later conquer Babylon and allow the Israelites to return to their homeland.
Symbolic Meaning: The east, in the context of the Bible, can represent the source of new beginnings, dawn, and salvation. The coming from the east, therefore, signifies a transformative event that will bring about a positive change for Israel.
Contrast with Babylonian Perspective: The Babylonians, from their perspective, would see the Persian army approaching from the east. This highlights the perspective of the oppressed and the one who will bring about liberation.
This is similar to Isaiah 46.
Isaiah 46 emphasizes God's power and ability to save compared to the helplessness of idols. It highlights God's sovereignty by declaring His knowledge of the end from the beginning, contrasting this with the limitations of human and false idols.
The chapter encourages trust in God as the true source of deliverance and salvation, while warning against the folly of idolatry.
Key points of Isaiah 46:
Exposes the futility of idolatry:
Isaiah 46 points out the limitations of idols, which are carried and cannot save their worshippers.
Highlights God's sovereignty:
God declares that He knows the end from the beginning and that His plans will be accomplished.
Encourages trust in God:
The chapter encourages God's people to trust in Him, who will carry them and save them.
Contrasts God's power with the impotence of idols:
Isaiah 46 contrasts God's ability to save with the inability of idols to deliver.
Isaiah 46:10-13 NIV
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’ From the east I summon a bird of prey; from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose. What I have said, that I will bring about; what I have planned, that I will do. Listen to me, you stubborn-hearted, you who are now far from my righteousness. I am bringing my righteousness near, it is not far away; and my salvation will not be delayed. I will grant salvation to Zion, my splendor to Israel.
Isaiah 46:10 is a pivotal verse in understanding the prophecies concerning Cyrus, as it's part of a larger context that predicts his rise to power and his role in the deliverance of the Israelites from Babylonian captivity.
How Isaiah 46:10 relates to Cyrus:
Prophetic Context: Isaiah 46:10 states, "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure". This verse is presented within the context of God's declaration of His sovereignty over history and His ability to predict future events.
Immediate Context: Isaiah 46:11 specifically names Cyrus as the "ravenous bird from the east" called by God to execute His purpose. Some scholars suggest this refers to the battle standard of Cyrus, which featured an eagle.
Historical Fulfillment: The prophecy in Isaiah 46 is connected to the historical events surrounding the conquest of Babylon by Cyrus the Great in 539 BC and his subsequent decree in 538 BC allowing the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple. This act fulfilled Isaiah's prophecy about God's plan and purpose being carried out through Cyrus.
Name Recognition: Isaiah 44:28 and 45:1 explicitly name Cyrus as the instrument of God's plan for the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Temple. These mentions, along with the context of Isaiah 46, point to Cyrus as the subject of these prophecies.
Evidence for the Connection:
Timing: The prophecy of Cyrus is attributed to Isaiah, who prophesied around the 8th century BC, meaning these prophecies predate Cyrus' rise to power by over a century.
Manuscript Evidence: Early manuscripts like the Great Isaiah Scroll (part of the Dead Sea Scrolls), which date to the 2nd century BC, contain the references to Cyrus, supporting the claim that these were not later additions.
Archaeological and Historical Evidence: The Cyrus Cylinder, a clay cylinder discovered in 1879, corroborates the historical accounts of Cyrus' reign and his policy of repatriating conquered peoples. This artifact aligns with the biblical accounts of Cyrus' actions.
Therefore, while Isaiah 46:10 itself speaks of God's ability to declare the end from the beginning, its connection to Cyrus is established through its context and the subsequent verses (particularly Isaiah 46:11), which identify the specific individual God would use to fulfill His purpose in the deliverance of the Israelites. This prophecy is seen as a testament to God's foresight and control over history.
The last and final reason that none of these prophecies are about Ahnsahnghong and Ahnsahnghong is not Christ or God is this. Where does Jesus appear at his second coming? Is it in the East?
Now I've already proven that the second coming in judgment is technically different but not in the way the WMSCOG teaches. But essentially Matthew 24:1-35 will fulfill 2,000 years ago by the destruction of Jerusalem and 70 AD judgment Day obviously is referring to judgment Day when God comes again to judge the wicked save The righteous etc.
We correctly refer to this as the second coming as mainstream Christians. Then where does the Bible say Jesus comes at his second coming is it from the east or somewhere else? Technically it is East but the Bible says east of Jerusalem but specifically his feet will touch down on the Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 14:4 NIV
“On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.”
Now the Bible says on that day his feet will touch down the Mount of Olives then what day is this referring to let's see.
Zechariah 14:6-9 NIV
“You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.”
Here we see that there's going to be a great earthquake and that the Lord is going to come with all his holy ones. There will neither be hot or cold, there will be no light or day etc. Even John in Revelation uses the same kind of language when he's talking about the new heaven, new Earth, right what we know is the time God comes to judge the world and make everything new or judgment Day correct?
This is the second coming when Jesus descends out of heaven with his holy ones he will come to the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem that is how the Bible describes it.
Now you may be asking well Cyrus is partially fulfilled because Ahnsahnghong comes from the East and freeze us from the Roman Catholic church or at least the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church which is Sunday Christmas etc. basically like how Cyrus freed the Jews from Babylon captivity so Ahnsahnghong appears from the east to free the spiritual Jews from Babylon captivity the Roman Catholic church.
That is where we're going to answer in future articles: is Babylon the Roman Catholic Church? It will actually make this subject more clear honestly. Because if Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church then sure, I will fold on that and agree Ahnsahnghong freed us as the prophesied Cyrus. Doesn’t fix the problems with the interpretation of Revelation 7 but I digress.
But if the bible doesn’t indicate the Roman Catholic Church is Babylon then this prophecy is absolutely meaningless. Stay tuned for my following videos where we will answer this question in depth.
Anyways that's all I have for coming from the East and the seal of God. Please be sure to share and subscribe to the blog and if I missed anything please feel free to let me know.
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